Yep, that's why I contacted Matt, just in case he feels he can take any action. If Matt doesn't feel it's worth pursuing, I'm happy just to drop the matter but it's just the entire injustice of it all !
Unfortunately I don't have any access to the site, they have closed off all accounts, including the admin ones because I had originally thought of basically un-installing everything but they have obviously second guessed that one - fact is though, I still hold the licenses for all the software they are using and I've already asked Matt for his suggestions on that one. From where I'm sitting, the licenses have expired so for me to change the URL attached to those licenses I would have to pay to renew them (not a prob) and then potentially report them for using an unlicensed copy of IPB?. Thing is, this guy is in India and it's likely not to be something IPB could pursue so I could really be wasting my time.
Actually, the never requested the transfer of IPB licenses, I have IPBoard, Content, Blog and Downloads, all of which are still being used on the site. As I am still the rightful owner does that mean I can withdraw my permission for them to use my licenses on their site now?. If so, can anyone suggest how to go about that and how I would then make Invision aware of the fact they are running unlicensed? Cheers Marko
Well, never saw that one coming. The domain transferred across to the new owner this morning and they released payment from escrow only to tell me they intend to simply pass on the site to some "hacker" in India to use as a fake facebook password site that generates income from surveys, etc. What a disappointment that was, 8 years hard work all flushed down the toilet in one fail swoop. Apparently the guy who bought the site was only in it "for a quick buck" and the guy he is selling the site onto wants established sites with good reps so he can masquerade his illicit ways!!. I've already managed to contact all our members and ask them to rate the site negatively in WOT and if anyone here fancies trying to get back at the spammers and scammers out there then now could be your chance by doing the same to the site I used to own and love. If you go to https://www.mywot.com/en/scorecard/freewarebb.com and rate the site negatively, it should cancel out the usefulness of the site to the guy in India. I know this was meant to be a "feedback" thread but we all stand something to loose if we allow these people to continue using the net for their drivel and illicit ways.
We installed the addon way before IPB were doing any SEO at all and the addon helped our site appear in the search engines because at the time friendly URL's and other SEO matters were buzzing. Once IPB started SEO, the developer of the mod basically abandoned the addon leaving everyone high and dry. At the time I didn't realise the developer of the addon was going to abandon us, they actually said they would make their mod compatible with the new version if memory serves me correctly and I had already made the move and by the time I realised things were very wrong we had overwritten the backups that would have taken us back to where we were. I blame myself too for the mess, because if I'd have known a little more about the subject I would have known to redirect the links properly but unfortunately hindsight is always a wonderful thing after the event!!
What I didn't know then was when all our URLs changed, we basically lost the majority of traffic from the search engines, purely because the URL they were storing didn't exist anymore. What we should have investigated was a way to let the search engines know that the old URL had moved to a new URL. Problem was we didn't know that, and even if we did we wouldn't know how to implement it, when someone eventually came up with a solution, the damage had been done. You need to figure how SMF was writing URLs and how IPB is now writing URLs and implement some kind of redirect but I'll be buggered if I could offer any technical advice!
Well, since 2007 I've been running freewarebb.com because I couldn't find a decent bloody download portal that would give me simple freeware without all the crap we see nowadays, whether it's bundled adware or installers with everything, so I set up my own forum and before long was using IPDownloads, Blogs, Content, etc, etc and our site was making a pretty decent dent in the world of downloads. As far as I am aware, FreewareBB is the only dedicated download site run entirely using IPB software!. Unfortunately, with a major release from IPB we lost all our URL's due to a third party hook becoming outdated and we never really recovered if I'm honest. I don't blame IPB, well, I suppose at the time I was quite upset and really needed someone to blame, but looking back I think the writing was on the wall for a lot of sites, probably mine included and it wasn't long after that major release that we saw a rapid decline in revenue. I've been on and off these forums since way back then and got to know some of you guys, dealt primarily with Brandon who is a particularly sound individual and helped me a lot and if there is one thing that has remained rock solid about IPB it's the staff and the people involved with the platform. Any ticket I ever opened was always dealt with professionally, and promptly and even when, technically, it wasn't really an IPB matter, they would always see to it that they gave the best advice so I could go back and tell my host. Well done to all you guys and a final farewell from me because the site is currently being transferred to a new owner who can hopefully breathe new life into it and devote the necessary time and energy into it that it needs and deserves. I'm not sure if FreewareBB will always be the only dedicated download site to run on IPB software, but I bet it will remain the best Thanks for the last 8 years guys, I've had fun using your software Mark
There was a great deal more that CSEO did, wasn't just about URL formatting, but unfortunately I couldn't begin to detail what those other things were. My point was, when I finally realised something was very very wrong, I raised the fact that my (and others) sites had suffered immensely and were showing little signs of improving for some reason but we were dismissed for concentrating on SEO too much. Nothing gets us away from the fact that almost everyone who used CSEO suffered the same fate ... great results with it, sites that vanished from public view overnight without it. I also asked Invision to consider purchasing the rights to the CSEO modification with the intention of possibly incorporating it into the software but that never happened and was never even considered if I recall correctly.
The CSEO modification could have been ahead of it's time and who's to say it's day may have came anyway, but I guess we'll never know and I guess I'll always have to accept that it may just have been coincidence that my site suffered a fatal blow in search engine referrals almost overnight as CSEO was pulled, thing is, so did everyone else who found themselves without CSEO !!
Syntraclick, did you ever have any experience of the CSEO addon which was developed and sold by a third party some years ago?. The reason I ask is that I started my forum in 2007 and began using that mod after about a year. Our site did particularly well, incredibly over the course of the next year or so after implementing the addon, but then IPB were releasing V3 (I think it was) which hinted the inclusion of built in SEO so the developers of CSEO threw in the towel and stopped working on their program. Almost immediately after I updated my site and lost the functionality of CSEO, our site all but fell from the search results and referrals from search engines suffered immensely. We were told this would be expected and it could take 6 months for things to get back on track, but things never did get back on track and our site has struggled ever since to even make hosting fees from ad revenue.
I'm no SEO expert, but I've said for years, and since the loss of the CSEO application that the current SEO of IPB isn't doing decent sites any favours. We literally lost three quarters of our traffic from search engines overnight and have never managed to recover that back. Strange coincidence or the fault of poor built in SEO?. Maybe you could answer that question better than me !!
Sorry if I sound sceptical about adsense "bans", I've seen numerous complaints from webmasters over the years with stories that don't exactly add up and I've absolutely no doubt there are innocent people, such as yourself, caught up in bans through no fault of your own, but I've also heard of others appealing to adsense and having their bans overturned then we have those who "don't bother" to appeal because they don't see the point?!.
I suggested IPB try and incorporate an adsense type advertising programme into the ACP Brandon which would cover just about every other ad network offering block and banner ads - I'm sure many would agree this would give many more people the opportunity to insert ads from different networks as well as their own banners with messages to appear on specific pages, etc ... from my own experience, VigLink isn't welcomed from many users and whilst some users have a hard time even dealing with banner adverts, having to attempt to negotiate a pop-up VigLink which throws itself up in the middle of text without clicking it, turns visitors off completely because they can't then read the content of the page. I'm definitely to blame for the whole "adsense" content here, purely because I wanted to draw your attention to the bigger potential for the suite of offering an advertising programme capable of accommodating adsense and other similar networks using block advertising, and randomising it would most certainly take earning potentials to another level, thus potentially inciting others across to the IPB platform!! :)
Of course, just my findings, if VigLink works for others, more power to them, and I for one would like to hear of any success stories with that particular network if possible :smile:
You've been using Viglink now for a couple of months, and you claim there is a lot of "misinformation" here?. Honestly, after only a couple of months you ain't even touching the surface of advertising and it's pitfalls ... adsense is, and always has been, the most profitable advertising network out there and whilst it would be foolish to try and rely on one advertising network alone, adsense is the one most people want to keep, yet many loose because their accounts were "mysteriously" banned "without reason".
Strange, I've had my adsense account for over 5 years and I've never been banned .. then again, I've never clicked my own ads, and if I did accidentally, I always emailed adsense to tell them - probably one of the reasons I don't have to rely on Viglink and it's pop-up advertising :smile:
VigLink is one of the most annoying advertising methods around and turns most visitors off quicker than a power cut. Advertising is best implemented using Google Adsense, and ads like Large Rectangles (336x280) or Leaderboard ads (728x90) ... and the key to successful ad placement is making things random. If IPB want to floor the competition with an advertising campaign built in to IPBoard and all the associated apps, make space available in the ACP for about 5 or 6 different formats of ads, and have them randomly displayed to selected user groups in different places on the pages on refresh (max 3 ads and 3 link units). Wrapping content around the ads will also prove highly successful for the ad campaign.
Achieve that, and some opimisation and you, sir, will have people fighting over each other to buy IPB
Whilst contributions to the market place are great and some have their place, I've found over the years that to use, and rely on, addons is a big mistake. Addons come and go, and so do many of the developers responsible for them and as IPBoard evolves, the third party addons get left behind or abandoned leaving users with unusable third party apps.
Of course, there are developers who continue to develop and support their apps, but there are a whole load who don't either which is why I have few mods on my site now, and those I do have I could live without realistically. I was stung once before with an SEO mod which did my site a tremendous amount of good, then it got dropped presumably because the mod developer wasn't making enough money and my site hasn't recovered, ever, and that was years ago. My advice, don't rely on mods, don't get your users reliant on mods and only ever introduce mods onto your site that you, and your users can live without.