I have had my board for 6 or 7 years now. I am not a coder although I have gotten good at fixing any problems I run into during that time. I currently run my board on a VPS server.
IPS has always had super support when I have asked for it. I have skins themes on my 3.4.6 board and some mods. Like everyone these days money has become tighter and tighter. I currently am not up to date with my support, which I hate as I consider it as a nice way of showing my loyalty to IPS. I am trying to get a feel for how much the 4.0 will cost me if I have to replace lots of current working mods/themes.
What I am trying to get at is next month my board will celebrate it's 7th year. I plan on renewing my support but need to know what to tell members to prepare them for when 4.0 is released.
Are all the current themes that we use going to cease to function and have to be replaced?
Will most if not all mods be affected?
I know with each update/upgrade we always run into incompatibilities and these are to be expected. However there are some mods that have just worked over the years without having to be updated, and some themes actually still work without causing problems. With the total rework of your code as I understand, do you foresee a big impact on "most everything" concerning themes and mods?
I think I stumbled across the answer in '?do=embed' frameborder='0' data-embedContent>>
But it was not from a support member. " Themes and mod's cannot be transferred. (From the announcement)" I could not find the "announcement though. So everything regarding themes and mods will have to be replaced correct?
Thanks for the great support from all the support personnel that have helped me in the past.
I'm actually seeing a resurgence on my board, and seeing some General Discussion forums that the owners had migrated to FB return and start the forums again. I think in time, that FB will lose some of it's appeal. People really like the privacy and personal touch that a forum brings. Just my 2 cents.
I'm really tired of all the broken things, or course I can fix them if I have $5 here and $15 there to replace something that was taken out. If not for the goodness of devs like Michael and a few others, this simple cookie thing would cost 5-10 bucks. Geesh.
It would almost look like the conspiracy remark made here or another thread tongue in cheek, might have validity. "Things were stripped so modders could make money off replacing them?" or something like that. Gone are the days of doing it for the community, enter the "Market" I had a bad feeling when I saw the title of that section.
So far I have spent more time chasing down and replacing or trying to learn how to fix them on my own, than I have enjoying the software.
I still have, pictures that break the layout (even though my settings are the same as they have always been) Photobucket slide shows that no longer work, we just figured out how to get mp4's from photobucket to play. Some people are still struggling with that one. But I have it working on mine and trying to share (for free) how it was done. I'm sure as soon as someone sees the "need" for a mod to fix it they will be so kind as to rush out a $5-$10 fix for everyone else. :)
My Facebook status connection stopped working, no one can figure out why. Disabled mods and 3rd party apps and it still fails to work unless you do it 2 or 3 times and then it works, posts your status to Facebook and kicks you to your profile page. Gonna be fun figuring that one out.
Upgrade? I think the term was used loosely. Sorry, I'm ranting again. I need to spend this time fixing up my once smoothly running forum for my members to enjoy. :frantics:
Is there anyone here willing to share how to add a remove cookies link to our sites. I keep clicking on the links in this thread to see if I can learn, but they must be uber secret dev stuff because I just get the error page [#10340] You do not have permission to view this topic.
I don't think I can afford $10 for a hook. Pleeease?
I ran several tests, waited a couple month's before upgrading. It's true no one twisted my arm to upgrade, but it is also true that because IPB has always been above the normal standard, I am trying to show product loyalty by following the upgrades. Would IPB prefer us to just go to another forum software provider? Or try to cope with these changes. Venting in these areas is one way of coping for some. It almost sounds like the attitude is I should have stayed with 3.1.4 or gone somewhere else.
BTW, I do like your mods. One replaced the missing Pic on the index page (Member Photo in Menubar) that we lost.
My apologies if I ruffled any feathers with my post.
As far as cookies? A simple link to help the less forum educated clear them for this the one forum, is much easier than trying to help them figure out how to clear cookies for different browsers. There are times when a cookie problem causes a headache and clearing it fixes the issue. Not often, but priceless when it does. Are we to turn our backs on the less adept than us and just cater to advanced users for members? Just a thought.
I had my long post and got it off my chest. Looking back on it I feel a tad silly, but it was on my mind, and probably many others of the minority. Thanks for the time.
I drifted in here some time back during the Beta? I thought maybe the reports of missing things and changes were exaggerated, or that IPB would listen. Obviously this is not the case. I think what has happened, and I mean no disrespect for all the hard work that Matt, Charles and all the developers put into this product, is that they have gone to the "This is the way I want it to look and work" and not how it has worked so well for so long.
I could almost compare this latest upgrade to XP and Vista, XP had been honed till it worked really well, Sure it still had faults, but it worked pretty smooth for what it was. In a fear that people would get bored with it, they introduced Vista, which as we all know was sort of a joke (still is).
3.1.x was going fine, tons of mods if you wanted them, skins had settled in. Then someone got bored with the look and decided we needed a whole new look, and less things for us to use or "clutter" as they say. Here we are at 3.2 and recently before I could catch my breath from the upgrade 3.2.2?
Improvements? Most of my mods no longer work,
Not one of our old skins that I had purchased work, unless I'd like to pay to have them fixed (upgraded is the politically correct term)
I am missing things that now need hooks and mods to restore that members liked.
I no longer have control of half the things I used to be able to adjust.
Upgrade can be a nightmare. Never was in the 2.1.x - 3.0.x range before we "improved" everything.
I now have to use MY space on my server to host Avatars/Pics whatever you want to call it. Apparently someone thinks we all have lots of money, or use free hosts. I use a budget VPS I can't afford to store no more than I absolutely need to.
The editor is a nightmare to simple forum folk that were used to the old one. I field more requests about how to enter a simple link like they used to.
Photobucket Videos are difficult but workable, slideshows are a joke.
Popups when you hover over something (profiles) drive most members nuts.
On a side note which I am pleased to see, is my load times went from 10-14 secs, to 4-5 secs with 3.2 and that is with all the mods I could replace and or fix still loaded. Must be a fluke of some type. Or my connection liking the new things, because regular site tests on the net always showed 4-5 sec load time. I have a small forum 248 members and 106,000+ posts not like some of the big ones out there. Max load at one time is only 8-12 members.
3.2 does not like my VPS installation like all the 3.1.x versions did. For some reason I have to manually work with permissions and rename files to get banners to work. No one knows why.
As I posted somewhere else on the support forum regarding a mod that has lost support from the dev. People are getting tired of change, I don't know who you talk to for the input, but it can't be the average Joe out here with fun colorful forums that have to fork out money each time someone decides "We need a new look".
3.2? Yes, it looks neater, might be a tad faster (or slower depending on who you talk to), but on the average it is lacking the old fun atmosphere that it had, mod longevity and support, and people are tired of re-spending money on the same items because of updates. I nearly didn't reup my server hosting for another year after running a forum for 5 years and weathering the upgrades. I am trying to hang in here but it is getting tough.
If your target is commercial, where the vanilla base forum is all they want, then you might have enough customer base to support it and can move on and forget about us guys that do it for a hobby.