[kittykatt]

My fav are Method Man, Lil'Kim, missy

[Jonathan S.]

I personally can't stand rap. I will occassionally listen to a song by Nelly such as "Country Grammar" or by Eminem " Lose Yourself" but other than that I really hate it all. Just my opinion.

[Shao_Kahn]

I have yet to see anyone correctly identify hip hop. Britney and Justin as hip hop? lol, they're "pop" or "hip pop", not "hip hop". Hip hop is definately a musical genre, rap is not. Hip hop consists of MCing, DJing, graffiti tag art, breakdancing, etc. Rap is simply MCing so it's a part of hip hop, a very small part. Hip hop was created as a way for people to make music themselves without paying thousands of dollars on musical equipment, you didn't have to make it serious just as long as it made people dance. It was also created to solve a lot of the violence problems where the original artists lived in, instead of going around shooting eachother they "battled" on the microphone instead. If unity, self-expression, and having a good time during bad times, instead of continuing to promote violence, is not enough reason to be called a musical genre, then I don't know what is.

I love hip hop, and I love artists which rap but use more hip hop elements, but I do not necessarily like rap itself. 50 cent, jay z, etc. suck, in my opinion. However, throw on some Canibus, Binary Star, Tonedeff, etc. and I'll be happy for days

[kula_shakerz]

Cant say that I'm a big hip hop / rap fan....actually I turn off the TV/Radio each time it comes on

psychedelic rock r0xorz!

[DXL]

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I have yet to see anyone correctly identify hip hop. Britney and Justin as hip hop? lol, they're "pop" or "hip pop", not "hip hop". Hip hop is definately a musical genre, rap is not. Hip hop consists of MCing, DJing, graffiti tag art, breakdancing, etc. Rap is simply MCing so it's a part of hip hop, a very small part. Hip hop was created as a way for people to make music themselves without paying thousands of dollars on musical equipment, you didn't have to make it serious just as long as it made people dance. It was also created to solve a lot of the violence problems where the original artists lived in, instead of going around shooting eachother they "battled" on the microphone instead. If unity, self-expression, and having a good time during bad times, instead of continuing to promote violence, is not enough reason to be called a musical genre, then I don't know what is.

I love hip hop, and I love artists which rap but use more hip hop elements, but I do not necessarily like rap itself. 50 cent, jay z, etc. suck, in my opinion. However, throw on some Canibus, Binary Star, Tonedeff, etc. and I'll be happy for days

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Your post is contradictory. Hip Hop isn't a genre.

And you're pigeonholing by saying it started primarily as dance music, tracks like White Lines, Beatstreet Breakdown or The Message were made over 20 years ago because it carried a message.

Namedropping an artist like Canibus or Necro doesn't mean that person knows any more about Hip Hop just because they don't listen to mainstream rap. In the year and half I've been on here I've probably only come across one or two people that actually know something about Hip Hop.

[gamecubemastr]

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I'm forced to listen to it at work, but frankly I'd happily pour acid on eery rap album in the world. And I absolutly refuse to listen to 50 Cent and have actually gotten into arguments about it. Frankly I think that anyone who thinks guns, crime and violence are so fun and cool should have both their kneecaps blown off with a .357 hollow point and then see if they have the same opinion.

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So when exactly does 50 Cent say he enjoys getting shot and found it fun and cool?
Personally I hate flashy rap (ie. cars, girls, money) but my one exception to that is a few of 50's songs since well he's under Shady Records.

[Michael_C]

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Feel free to enlighten me with who these artists are.

FYI: Korn, Kid Rock and Limp Bizkit don't count.

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Scribe - Stand Up for one.

[surtin]

It seems to me, that since the whole East vs West "beef" major recording companies have been waiting for the next time they can capitalize on it. More then likely that will never happen since there really was no East vs. West, it was all media hype. Instead of going on a whole diatribe I'll keep it short and sweet.

Hip Hop right now is being bastardized by the likes of BET and MTV (though rarely MTV2 will show a few old school joints). Like the few posters before me have said, Hip Hop IS a culture, just because Winamp has it listed as a Genre doesn't make it one. Hip hop to me, and a lot of others, is definitely a certain lifestyle (sounds a bit cliche, and even sometimes a bit odd. "How can you dress Hip Hop!?" ) that doesn't involve fast cars, stash bars, and broads givin' head in yer ride with spinners.

Instead of keeping the same attitude of, "Everybody else says it's a genre so it is." why not read what DXL posted and even learn something for yourself. I'm sure in every city and town around America, even in certain places the world over, there's small (or large) spots of people "living" hip hop.

So back to the main issue, hip hop consists of: deejayin', breakin', graf, beatbox, emceein', etc. Rap is just the smallest part of hip hop.

But uh... yeah I listen to rap.

[Quillz]

I respect hip-hop and rap as musical genres, but I'm not really a fan of either.

[DXL]

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Scribe - Stand Up for one.

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A wack rapper that almost no one outside of New Zealand knows?

And he doesn't refer to his beats as hip hop, so he's excluded from why I asked our friend in Seattle to name off some artists that fall in the category he was speaking of.

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It seems to me, that since the whole East vs West "beef" major recording companies have been waiting for the next time they can capitalize on it. More then likely that will never happen since there really was no East vs. West, it was all media hype. Instead of going on a whole diatribe I'll keep it short and sweet.

Hip Hop right now is being bastardized by the likes of BET and MTV (though rarely MTV2 will show a few old school joints). Like the few posters before me have said, Hip Hop IS a culture, just because Winamp has it listed as a Genre doesn't make it one. Hip hop to me, and a lot of others, is definitely a certain lifestyle (sounds a bit cliche, and even sometimes a bit odd. "How can you dress Hip Hop!?" ) that doesn't involve fast cars, stash bars, and broads givin' head in yer ride with spinners.

Instead of keeping the same attitude of, "Everybody else says it's a genre so it is." why not read what DXL posted and even learn something for yourself. I'm sure in every city and town around America, even in certain places the world over, there's small (or large) spots of people "living" hip hop.

So back to the main issue, hip hop consists of: deejayin', breakin', graf, beatbox, emceein', etc. Rap is just the smallest part of hip hop.

But uh... yeah I listen to rap.

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Thats a post I can appreciate.

[blush]

Good rap is something I can appreciate mostly thanks to DXL. I still hate faecesty rap which is what most people think of when they hear "rap."

er. and I was listening to outkast the other day because "hey ya!" makes me want to dance. :">

[DXL]

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Good rap is something I can appreciate mostly thanks to DXL.  I still hate faecesty rap which is what most people think of when they hear "rap."

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Imagine that

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er.  and I was listening to outkast the other day because "hey ya!" makes me want to dance.  :">

[Phil.Roberts]

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So when exactly does 50 Cent say he enjoys getting shot and found it fun and cool?

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Catch up on your reading comprehension bud. My point was that 50c glorifies guns, violence, crime and misogyny. Like far too many of his all-mouth rap contemporaries.

[Michael_C]

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A wack rapper that almost no one outside of New Zealand knows?

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Wack rapper?? He absolutely cleaned up at the New Zealand Music Awards!
http://www.nzherald....ubsection=music

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At Auckland's Aotea Centre, the hip-hop star born Malo Luafutu - who last year became the first New Zealand artist to have an album and single at No 1 in the local charts - won seven of the nine categories in which he was nominated in the wake of his 2003 debut album The Crusader and the hit Stand Up.

http://www.nzherald....storyID=3593971

[DXL]

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Wack rapper?? He absolutely cleaned up at the New Zealand Music Awards!
http://www.nzherald....ubsection=music
http://www.nzherald....storyID=3593971

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He cleaned up at the New Zealand Music Awards. I can safely assume that there are more rappers living in my city then there are living in that entire country. I can name noteworthy rappers from the U.K., Spain, Mexico, Canada, and some of them are getting writeups in U.S. hip hop mags. I've heard his music and read his lyrics, he's wack, if he cleaned up at the awards it was because there wasn't an equally wack rapper to outdo his mediocre album. Who is his competition? Besides, Nelly won a Grammy, so award shows don't dictate anything.

[Michael_C]

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He cleaned up at the New Zealand Music Awards.  I can safely assume that there are more rappers living in my city then there are living in that entire country.  I can name noteworthy rappers from the U.K., Spain, Mexico, Canada, and some of them are getting writeups in U.S. hip hop mags.  I've heard his music and read his lyrics, he's wack, if he cleaned up at the awards it was because there wasn't an equally wack rapper to outdo his mediocre album.  Who is his competition?  Besides, Nelly won a Grammy, so award shows don't dictate anything.

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Yeah but thats your opinion and not necessarily everyone elses.

[DXL]

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Yeah but thats your opinion and not necessarily everyone elses.

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That he's wack is my opinion. That he's virtually unknown by almost every rap fan outside of New Zealand or Australia and isn't referenced in any major Hip Hop magazine is fact, though.

If an artist like Dizzee Rascal can get radio play in the U.S. and mention in mags, then Scribe could to, only he doesn't. Google the lyrics to "Stand Up", I know 12 year olds who rap better.

[Michael_C]

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That he's wack is my opinion.  That he's virtually unknown by almost every rap fan outside of New Zealand or Australia and isn't referenced in any major Hip Hop magazine  is fact, though.

If an artist like Dizzee Rascal can get radio play in the U.S. and mention in mags, then Scribe could to, only he doesn't.  Google the lyrics to "Stand Up", I know 12 year olds who rap better.

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Maybe because he hasn't actually launched his overseas career has he? Its called Pacific Island styles ou. :-"

[//Nathan]

I like the old stuff. By that I mean Dre and Snoop in the early 90s, Cypress Hill, Onyx, some Ice Cube. I don't like most of the new stuff, though Eminem is damn good, and 50 Cent isn't too bad, either.

I like how rap sounds, I just don't like what most rappers do with it. Like it doesn't sound right.

But then, I listen to just about everything from classical to new age, rap to rock, country to pop... I don't listen to music by genre, but by quality. There are very few genres I specifically don't listen to. And the three artists/bands I listen to the most these days, very few people have heard of. (So I'm not a big fan of MTV.)