[Geoff]

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There is no such thing as Hip Hop music.  Hip Hop is a culture consisting of turntablism (DJing), graffiti, breakdancing and emceeing (rapping).  Rap is the music, Hip Hop is a culture, a way to live.

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The elements you have mentioned are as I see it, the original core elements. You can expand on them to include Street Fashion, Language, Knowledge and more. Hiphop is a way of life.

I have a group of friends who are heavily into hiphop and another which don't have a clue. Whenever I try and explain it, they just beat me down, so I don't bother any more.

I don't listen to the rap music that is sterotyped by everyone. The rap with guns and killing. I listen to rap music I can relate to, where they are talking about everything in life. The problem is, people buy the gangsta rap because they think its cool, I just find it boring.

[Matt]

http://dictionary.re...rch?q=hip%20hop

"A popular urban youth culture, closely associated with rap music and with the style and fashions of African-American inner-city residents."

[surtin]

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Maybe because he hasn't actually launched his overseas career has he? Its called Pacific Island styles ou. :-"

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Well having only listened to the song once, personally I'd figure he can't launch his overseas career. There's TONS of rappers now from all over the world, some are decent and can get cred in places other then their homeland, but most won't and he's one of the ones who won't. Hell I could probably sweep NZ's music awards just by rappin' about my breakfast this mornin'.

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[Geoff]

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If an artist like Dizzee Rascal can get radio play in the U.S. and mention in mags, then Scribe could to, only he doesn't.  Google the lyrics to "Stand Up", I know 12 year olds who rap better.

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Dizzee Rascal is more about production than the rapping. Produced most of his two albums. His first track came on the scene when he was only 16. I think he is a great inspiration to many.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...zeerascal.shtml

[Swiftie]

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Dizzee Rascal is more about production than the rapping. Produced most of his two albums. His first track came on the scene when he was only 16. I think he is a great inspiration to many.

http://www.bbc.co.uk...zeerascal.shtml

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Just adding on....... Rascal aint strictly a Hip Hop Mc. He used the sound of UK Underground Garage to get himself to the level he's at the mo. He's created a niche for himself in the market where no 1 had heard that type of sound commercially hence why he's gettin world wide recognition right now.

[sylter]

mostly old stuff...

de la soul
eric b. & rakim
RUN DMC
digital underground
beastie boys
EPMD
grandmaster flash
dj shadow
dj andy smith
qbert

some new stuff i do like, rarely

[Skilzat99X]

I listen, definately, on the radio whenever I program, keeps one out of the world of geekness o.O

[DXL]

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http://dictionary.re...rch?q=hip%20hop

"A popular urban youth culture, closely associated with rap music and with the style and fashions of African-American inner-city residents."

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The definition on that site is inaccurate with respect to saying its "closely associated" with rap music. Its akin to saying that a point guard is closely associated to a basketball team, when in fact it's a component of it.

Also the reference to African-Americans is also shaky, Latinos (Puerto Ricans specifically) have also been an integral part of Hip Hop for 30 years. MCing, graf definitely, but hands down some of the best known breakdancers were Puerto Rican. Latinos have never gotten their fair share of credit in the history of Hip Hop.

[Payton]

no. no.