[Rikki]

rwx, on Apr 24 2005, 12:23 AM, said:

Besides, if it was racist, they would KILL every single non-White

I stopped reading at that point since it's clear you don't know what you're talking about on the issue. May I suggest the purchase of a dictionary?

P.S: I'm not exactly liberal on many issues. For example, I agree with the french policy of banning religious dress in schools, be it Christian, Muslim or Jewish. I agree with checks on immigrants (not asylum seekers) that determines whether they would be of benefit of to the country - loads of other 1st world countries do it, why not us? Even then, I disagree with the BNP strongly, though I don't disagree with their right to form a party. The BBC doesn't warp what it reports on them, what it reports is what happens.

[Darkshines]

http://en.wikipedia...._National_Party
http://en.wikipedia....ki/Nick_Griffin
http://en.wikipedia....28politician%29

These three should tell anyone who cares enough about the BNP and its leaders (provided you trust Wikipedia, of course).

I've heard reports from one of those 'anti-Nazi' groups that Nick Griffin has given Nazi salutes etc. in private too.

[Barn]

The BNP leader recently accused British Muslims of "perpetuating a 'massive rape wave'", designed to spread Islam by impregnating white girls.

[CTerry]

rwx, on Apr 24 2005, 12:00 AM, said:

The only western country that doesn't have the equivalent of the BNP is the United States, and I believe Canada.

All european countries including Australia and New Zealand have nationalist parties. I will have to look at this manifesto in full.

The KKK is now a fully registered political party and operates in several Southern States quite actively as such. However its electoral success has been similar to the BNP. It should be noted that the BNP is not a new party in any sense. The BNP has simply changed its name and its personality. It used to be the British Nazi Party, with the same leader and basic membership. By adopting PC terms they hope to reject notions that they are racist and move into the mainstream. This is called Euronationalism and has been particularly successful in Austria with the Freedom Party, which is lead by a man who has declared that 'Hitler had some pretty good ideas' and is now part of the coalition government, similarly Italy's National Alliance. The infamous Mousier Le Pen in France, who famously caused outcry when he almost became President of France is from France's Front National, and has been known to speak with and encourage BNP members. In Belgium you have the Vlaams Belang (Flemish Interest), a political party that replaced the Vlaams Blok (Flemish Block) after it was declared illegal due to policys that the Belgium Supreme Court declared racist.

It should be noted however that these parties are only new in their tactic of adopting PC rhetoric in order to sound less racist and that far right nationalist partys are not a new thing. In fact many of these partys date back to just after the post-war period. Some partys remain true to their routes. There are however 170 parties fielding candidates in next weeks election, it is only predictable that many will be far right. Just as many are far left. For every National Front, White Supremist, or 'Populist' party there is a Communist Party of Britain (in fact there are 5 communist parties of Britain) Marxist Partys, or Anarchist Partys. This is what happens in a democratic state.

I suspect Euronationalism will die off eventually. It perculiarly mirrors the 1970s phenomenon of Eurocommunism where communist partys rejected the Soviet Union completely and accepted feminists and homosexual civil right campaigners into the fold in order to appeal to more voters. The parties pretty much all eventually collapsed. They were beset by interior problems. The left of the party would often want to return to more communist roots, and the right of the party would often want to leave communism totally behind and turn into social democrat parties, as a result most of the parties split in half and people lost interest.

Take the BNP, which, it has been suggested, has links to the overtly Nazi Combat 18 (a small group of militants who believe in Adolf Hitler. In fact the 18 stands for his initials, 1 for the 1st letter of the alphabet: A, and 8 for the 8th letter: H) the famous documentary on BNP shows overt racism within its ranks, including on the part of its leader. Yet I've also read articles and seen commentary by members and supporters who clearly don't consider themselves racist but have fallen for the BNPs rhetoric. With the increasing evidence of racism within the BNP ranks being exposed I wouldn't be surprised if the Overt Racists and the liberal BNP members split. With the Overt Racists reforming into something more along the lines of the National Front and the liberal BNP members forming something similar to Veritas, or UKIP.