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Posted 24 August 2006 - 05:46 PM

That is a shame. sad.gif They got rid of pluto what a shame. First I thought they found a 10th planet then they down grade to 9th planet now it is 8th planet. What planet will be next. tongue.gif
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 05:54 PM

Aw. Pluto was always my favourite too. sad.gif
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 06:11 PM

Honestly, who even cares if Pluto was/is a planet? None of us are ever going there. Besides, can't even see it with a telescope anyways, unless your flippin' rich.

I wouldn't even care if they said Earth is a "planet", what really "is" a planet, anyways. OOOooo

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Posted 24 August 2006 - 06:48 PM

Well, I can understand why Pluto has been reverted to a "Kuiper Belt object," but Pluto was larger than the Moon, and had its own moon, Charon. I figured that the two may have been reclassified as moons of Neptune, but I guess they are too far away. Well, it does actually make more sense to have only eight planets, four small and four large, with the Asteroid Belt in between Mars and Jupiter and the Kuiper Belt beyond Neptune. And who knows, maybe someday we will find a large 9th planet.
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 07:06 PM

QUOTE(JasonIPS @ Aug 24 2006, 02:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I wouldn't even care if they said Earth is a "planet", what really "is" a planet, anyways. OOOooo


Just out of curiosity... if Earth isn't a planet, what is it?

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Posted 24 August 2006 - 07:10 PM

QUOTE(• Jay • @ Aug 24 2006, 03:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Just out of curiosity... if Earth isn't a planet, what is it?


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Posted 24 August 2006 - 07:21 PM

If earth wasn't a planet, it was would be a big sphere in space with green stuff and H2O tongue.gif

Sun isn't mainly a planet itself, its more like a big ball of fire biggrin.gif
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 07:40 PM

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Sun isn't mainly a planet itself, its more like a big ball of fire biggrin.gif


I believe, technically, the sun is classified as a star.
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 07:43 PM

The "10th planet" the media made a fuss over a couple years ago was 2003 UB313 (unofficially "Xena") found by astronomer Mike Brown, who is accepting this definition and doesn't seem too unhappy his find is being delegated to dwarf planet.

And anyway, the astronomy community keeping Pluto for historical reasons when it shouldn't be kept makes no sense when they reclassified Ceres in the 19th century. Normally scientists wouldn't mind getting rid of a long-standing "fact" if it was proven to be untrue.
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Post icon  Posted 24 August 2006 - 07:43 PM

QUOTE(Watty @ Aug 24 2006, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I believe, technically, the sun is classified as a star.
The Sun is a star, yes, although a smaller one. The biggest and hottest stars are a bluish-white, whereas the Sun is more red, meaning it's about midway through its life. The next stage would be the red supergiant, followed by a supernova (aka armageddon) and then a black dwarf.
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 07:52 PM

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Pluto was larger than the Moon, and had its own moon, Charon. And who knows, maybe someday we will find a large 9th planet.
Actually Pluto is smaller than the Moon (I checked wikipedia to verify this) and also several moons of Saturn and Jupiter as well as the Kuiper Belt object found a while back. Though Ganymede and Titan are also larger than Mercury. As for a large 'ninth planet', any object large enough to fit the new official definition of planet would of been found years, if not decades ago. Clearly we have found all the planets in our solar system we are going to find.
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 08:13 PM

I love how a group of people we've probably never heard of get to tell us what and what not to teach our children. My kids will know Pluto as a planet, regardless of what some group of scientist have decided. I will give them credit for adding some other discoveries, but dwarfing Pluto ( pun intended ) is just silly IMO.
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 08:26 PM

QUOTE(drygnfyre @ Aug 24 2006, 11:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Well, I can understand why Pluto has been reverted to a "Kuiper Belt object," but Pluto was larger than the Moon, and had its own moon, Charon. I figured that the two may have been reclassified as moons of Neptune, but I guess they are too far away.

I think it has more to do with the fact that they don't actually orbit Neptune. wink.gif
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 08:46 PM

QUOTE(Steve @ Aug 24 2006, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I love how a group of people we've probably never heard of get to tell us what and what not to teach our children. My kids will know Pluto as a planet, regardless of what some group of scientist have decided. I will give them credit for adding some other discoveries, but dwarfing Pluto ( pun intended ) is just silly IMO.

By this logic, everyone should still be teaching their kids that Ceres is a planet, and that its demotion in the 1850s was silly. fear.gif
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 09:04 PM

QUOTE(Michael Merritt @ Aug 24 2006, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
By this logic, everyone should still be teaching their kids that Ceres is a planet, and that its demotion in the 1850s was silly. fear.gif

I know.... it's silly. rolleyes.gif
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 09:50 PM

Now what will they do with that acronym for remembering the planets?

Yeah, we heard about this in school today.

Oh, and tomorrow also is supposed to show Mars closest to the Earth for the first time in like thousands of years. Should be interesting.
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 10:33 PM

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The Sun is a star, yes, although a smaller one. The biggest and hottest stars are a bluish-white, whereas the Sun is more red, meaning it's about midway through its life. The next stage would be the red supergiant, followed by a supernova (aka armageddon) and then a black dwarf.


I read somewhere that our sun is not big enough to turn to a supernova - it has only 1/8 of the "required" mass and it's also not part of a binary star solar system.
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 10:54 PM

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Now what will they do with that acronym for remembering the planets?

Yeah, we heard about this in school today.

Oh, and tomorrow also is supposed to show Mars closest to the Earth for the first time in like thousands of years. Should be interesting.

http://www.snopes.com/science/mars.asp rolleyes.gif
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 11:10 PM

I also have read that the sun isn't big enough to reach the supernova stage. It will however expand to the size nearly the size of Earth's orbit around it, but by that time the Earth would have drifted 1.7 times away from where it is now. By then either humans would be extinct or would have moved somewhere else, so I doubt it will be a problem.

Back on subject, I don't really think it matters that Pluto isn't a planet anymore. I think that creating the dwarf planet class opens the possibilities for many more dwarf planets to be added, just no more "regular" planets.
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Posted 24 August 2006 - 11:35 PM

http://dictionary.re...p...amp;x=0&y=0

Reading this, how does Pluto not fit the description? And if it has anything to do with seeing it, then all "planets" around other starts are not planets because we cant see it from our vantage point. And if you throw in "the ability to support life" then technically earth is the only known planet in this solar system. (Cant comment about planets around other stars)

Really think that cutting pluto out was kind of... stupid really. I think it's all about the money.
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