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#21 Marcher Technologies

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 02:46 PM

Why can't you get notified of comments on files? All you have to do is watch a file and you should be notified of new comments to it (as long as your notification options are set correctly).

If you mean you would like to see auto-subscription implemented, I'm not against this suggestion.



I just noticed that too - that's the problem. It's posting a new topic for you, not a reply. We would need an enhancement to IP.Board to support this really.

ummm..... lol... of all the feature requests...... farber, as it stands now the whole system is flawed.... please..... its not natural to have ALL that checked... post a topic/article/download/ whatever!!! and have NOTHING unless you hit follow manually.... or reply.

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 02:51 PM

Why can't you get notified of comments on files? All you have to do is watch a file and you should be notified of new comments to it (as long as your notification options are set correctly).
If you mean you would like to see auto-subscription implemented, I'm not against this suggestion.

Great to hear Brandon, although please do remember that existing sites will also need some way to make sure existing files/developers are updated too :smile:

The reason I'm a tad unhappy with the notification options at the moment, is like Marcher says, too many options - most of our users just will not understand or even realise options exist like this. Gone are the good ole days where forums were mostly populated by techno heads who wanted to delve into the control panel mass!. It's ordinary web users now that are finding their way onto forums and they will not be bothered with control panels full of options, they want to click, post and move on. It's very easy for them to assume nothing has developed on the thread/post/download/blog they posted on cause surely they would have heard?. In many cases, no, they wouldn't have and it's very likely a response was left.

We either need to make all the apps the same as the forums (i.e. they make a new post or reply to an existing one and are subscribed automatically) or preferably a realtime option to ask them what they want to do with options to set and forget such as "subscribe me to this and every topic I post in, and don't remind me again" type idea ???

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 02:54 PM

ummm..... lol... of all the feature requests...... farber, as it stands now the whole system is flawed.... please..... its not natural to have ALL that checked... post a topic/article/download/ whatever!!! and have NOTHING unless you hit follow manually.... or reply.


I wouldn't say "the whole system is flawed". That's like throwing out your refrigerator because a block of cheese went bad. I believe adding similar checkboxes as you see for topics for other areas that could use them (downloads, blogs, etc.) would be beneficial. "Automatically follow files I submit", etc. Doesn't make the whole system flawed in my mind, however.
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#24 Noni

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 02:57 PM

I also want to reset the default notification options for existing members.
It's a 'painfully' long list which i don't think too many used/changed it.
I haven't changed it even for myself.

What i do know, is that i changed from the admin pannel in time the defaults as my thoughts about them have changed as well.

For example, after introducing the new notification system, where messages and notifications are displayed a lot better with red icons and stuff, i considered that all members should use more this system and i checked a couple more items in the admin pannel.

I did the same with emails... At some point i was getting too many emails from my board which i actullay found annoying, they were all notifications, i changed defaults again...

I won't be surprised if in the future i will make more changes in the admin as the notification system gets a little better (i think improvemets can be made such as: ease of use, readability, more intuitive)

The bad part of all my efforts is that changes do apply only to new members

#25 Marcher Technologies

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Posted 16 November 2011 - 02:58 PM

I wouldn't say "the whole system is flawed". That's like throwing out your refrigerator because a block of cheese went bad. I believe adding similar checkboxes as you see for topics for other areas that could use them (downloads, blogs, etc.) would be beneficial. "Automatically follow files I submit", etc. Doesn't make the whole system flawed in my mind, however.

Fair point..... but when someone submits something, anything really, they are beyond annoyed with all that checked off they are not following the item automatically....
most dont even notice.... and wander off and miss replies.
If i Post a topic... anything, with ALL that checked off, i have to follow the topic I submitted manually?
Same for the Rest.
it is not as fluid and natural as the system should be in my eyes......
dont make notifications any worse for people.....
this is direly needed IMHO....

#26 Marcher Technologies

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 06:11 PM

.... I KNOW this is flat MONTHS overdue.
BUT a hook awaits approval here that will allow your Existing members to easily opt-in to admin Notification Defaults at leisure with a highly visible link next to notifications drop-down.....
This "should" alleviate someones headaches....
Its better than having no easy way for any member to synch with the ACP Defaults.
and NO..... I WONT be making one to FORCE it for ALL members.... I feel it SHOULD be an opt-in.... Though a highly visible one.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 06:17 PM

I support this.

I was looking for this feature a few days ago when I wanted to disable all emailing notifications. I think the admin should have the power to enable and disable notification methods.

#28 Marcher Technologies

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 06:20 PM

I support this.

I was looking for this feature a few days ago when I wanted to disable all emailing notifications. I think the admin should have the power to enable and disable notification methods.

They do...
it just doesn't apply to existing members... ACP->Members->Members->Notification Defaults....
All this hook does is provide a link in the header for ANY existing member to synchronize to the ACP Settings at ANY time.... rather than being completely unaware their notifications are off.... or all checked but auto-follow off... >.<
not gonna lie though... ACP still missing some settings on this...
had to "loosely" hard-code the few to the most requested values. >.<

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 06:30 PM

They do...
it just doesn't apply to existing members... ACP->Members->Members->Notification Defaults....
All this hook does is provide a link in the header for ANY existing member to synchronize to the ACP Settings at ANY time.... rather than being completely unaware their notifications are off.... or all checked but auto-follow off... >.<
not gonna lie though... ACP still missing some settings on this...
had to "loosely" hard-code the few to the most requested values. >.<


Oh how did I not see this v.v thanks.

But as you said, It doesn't apply to existing members... which is what I need it to do.

#30 Marcher Technologies

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 06:32 PM

Oh how did I not see this v.v thanks.

But as you said, It doesn't apply to existing members... which is what I need it to do.

Which is exactly why i wrote the hook awaiting approval.....
I wont be the source of FORCING it at admin whim, but I do see value in an EASY, Visible(not stuffed away in a page-o-doom of check-boxes) opt-in.... therefore sidestepping(oh, but i DIDNT want emails from you!!) lawsuits.
which is precisely what that hook does.
As Marko said earlier in this topic... the entire notifications pane scares the bejeezus outta people.....(TBH... with allll the apps i have installed.... it scares ME... takes a solid 5 minutes to select everything :logik: )
one-click synch seemed helpful....
Side Note.... I hereby do Laugh at the notion that the members notification cache is untouchable......
Its in their cache people.... all you have to do is snag the core notifications cache, unpack the member cache, replace the members notification selected arrays with the admin ones, then pack it back up.

#31 Marcher Technologies

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 11:18 AM

We still need subscription options, just so anyone hasn't forgotten :P




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