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#1 Syscrusher

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 12:09 AM

Currently .swf banners can't be uploaded as advertisements in Nexus. The only work-around (found in this topic) is to manually enter the HTML in the ACP, but this doesn't allow users to purchase ad space and upload a .swf.

The only reason to not allow flash ads is security, but that should be a decision for site operators to make.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 04:02 AM

Clicks can't be counted on flash banners.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 09:16 AM

Maybe if some type of call back feature is in the SWF file then it would allow it. Pre-made code that can be added to the SWF file so it will allow count clicks.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 02:00 PM

Clicks can be tracked in swf files provided you embed some code in the file. Explained here. Scroll down the page and look for "To assign a clickTAG for your advertisement:"

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 05:41 PM

Clicks can be tracked in swf files provided you embed some code in the file. Explained here. Scroll down the page and look for "To assign a clickTAG for your advertisement:"

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I'm not a Flash developer but that appears to just be passing a variable which the Flash needs to implement for it to work.

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#6 Syscrusher

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:09 PM

Not all websites need click tracking. Allow swf, but add a note/disclaimer that click tracking is disabled.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:17 PM

Doesn't seem worth developing, Flash is pretty much dead now.
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Posted 07 December 2011 - 08:43 PM

I have swf ads at my site using a 3rd party ad manager. I don't track clicks as neither me or my advertisers have the software required to place code in the file. I just tell them that clicks can't be tracked.

I think Flash will be around for a while yet.

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Posted 07 December 2011 - 11:07 PM

Doesn't seem worth developing, Flash is pretty much dead now.

Yet it's used so often. You could argue HTML5 is dead'er then.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 12:06 AM

Yet it's used so often. You could argue HTML5 is dead'er then.


HTML5 is an emerging tech supported by every browser made in the last few years. IE10 is dropping support for Flash altogether, OS X Lion doesn't include it by default, and iOS devices never have and never will support it. Why run ads that require a scarce plugin to see? Use GIFs or some HTML5 animation if you must.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 12:09 AM

Just to add some anecdotal evidence: I sell my ads on a per month basis, with no guarantees or analytics for clicks or impressions. All but one of my current advertisers use a flash banner, and that's how they're going to advertise for virtually ever. They have no desire to (pay someone to) redesign their banner. If Nexus allowed swf banners, it would substantially lower my overhead in terms of billing/arranging/managing ads.

Ultimately I think adding the feature helps many of us monetize our communities, and adds no bloat for users who don't need/use flash banners.

EDIT (didn't see .time's psot): Calling flash a scarce plugin is an exaggeration. I agree with you whole heartedly that flash is dying and should die, and HTML5 is a preferable alternative. However, the choice of what medium an ad uses isn't mine. If my advertisers want to use a flash banner that limits the number of people who can see it, I have to try and support that whatever way possible.

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Posted 08 December 2011 - 03:57 PM

Nice try by playing with words but emerging is just another meaning for dead or scarce.
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Posted 08 December 2011 - 05:17 PM

Nice try by playing with words but emerging is just another meaning for dead or scarce.


[] You know the difference between a new, rising, open source standard and a dying (proprietary*) technology
[x] You are probably trolling or a bugged out flash-developer

*Although it was sold to be open source, flash never came near to be OS like say Java.

Flash had its time... it is not the fault of the technology that it was used as one of the most annoying things in the internet, still I can't resist to smile thinking about flash dying sooner or later.

The only good page in flash was:
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Posted 09 December 2011 - 11:45 AM

Doesn't seem worth developing, Flash is pretty much dead now.


Nope not dead just reroutes. True they will be no support for METRO IE10 but regular IE10 WILL support it. :ike:

METRO is for tablets, etc.

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Posted 09 December 2011 - 06:28 PM

Open source doesn't mean better. Many of us here are using IPB.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 01:22 AM

Currently .swf banners can't be uploaded as advertisements in Nexus. The only work-around (found in this topic) is to manually enter the HTML in the ACP, but this doesn't allow users to purchase ad space and upload a .swf.


Can that workaround even be used in 3.2? I've been trying to get a .swf banner working myself, but I'm so not a Flash expert (or even beginner).

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Posted 06 January 2012 - 06:33 AM

Regardless of the state of flash and blah blah blah. That is not the subject of this topic.

Can, or will IPS put in some form of support for swf banners, based on the fact that customers use that format?

If you all want to have a discussion on the merits (or otherwise) of flash and whatever, open a topic in the lounge.

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 02:56 PM

I also think this needs to be supported. There is a way you can work around it and still count all of the clicks from the swf file. Its a simple solution but all you need to do is create 2 banners of the same thing, one being swf (id1) and the other being an image (id2). Inside the swf file you just create a normal link but point to the id2 ad and each click will be registered there.

 

Mark, this should be easy to ad to nexus, just allow us to embed the flash file as if it were an image and we can put the appropriate link embedded in the flash file. This should count both impressions and clicks! :)

 

Here is the swf file code:

button.onRelease = function() {
getURL("http://site.com/index.php?app=nexus&module=promotion&section=adclick&id=2", "_blank"); };

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Posted 04 October 2013 - 03:26 PM

Another good idea if you want to use flash banners is to provide an image fallback if the user doesnt have flash installed or is on a mobile device. This is the html code I used when creating my flash banner:

<object type="application/x-shockwave-flash" data="http://site.com/public/banners/banner.swf" width="728" height="90" id="ad"><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="sameDomain"><param name="allowFullScreen" value="false"><param name="movie" value="http://site.com/public/banners/banner.swf"><param name="quality" value="high"><param name="wmode" value="opaque"><param name="bgcolor" value=""><param name="flashvars" value="clickTAG=http://site.com/index.php?app=nexus&module=promotion&section=adclick&id=2"><a href="http://site.com/index.php?app=nexus&module=promotion&section=adclick&id=2" target="_blank"><img src="http://site.com/public/banners/banner.jpg" width="728" height="90" alt="NoFlash" /></a></object>

Its not a bad workflow since you really should have an image fallback anyway, to create a separate banner that is an image to count the clicks.


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