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#1 csm

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 12:53 PM

Not sure about anyone else, I run IE with show errors and I've come across a few here at Invision


Webpage error details
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/5.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; MANM; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E; MANM; MS STORE DMC2.6.3411.2)
Timestamp: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:48:43 UTC

Message: Unable to get value of the property 'insert': object is null or undefined
Line: 1928
Char: 5
Code: 0
URI: [url="https://www.invisionpower.com/clients/public/js/ipb.js?ipbv=32006&load=quickpm,hovercard,attach,textEditor"]https://www.invisionpower.com/clients/public/js/ipb.js?ipbv=32006&load=quickpm,hovercard,attach,textEditor[/url]
Webpage error details
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/5.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; MANM; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E; MANM; MS STORE DMC2.6.3411.2)
Timestamp: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:43:49 UTC

Message: Unable to get value of the property 'observe': object is null or undefined
Line: 269
Char: 3
Code: 0
URI: [url="http://www.invisionpower.com/products/board/"]http://www.invisionpower.com/products/board/[/url]

Also, I went to close a ticket and got a couple more. I'm using the latest in IE....

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 04:22 PM

It shows your using IE7, this is long outdated... try upgrading to IE8 8 & 9 are the only supported versions of IE by microsoft. If you are using IE9, then turn off compatibility mode. :)

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#3 Marcher Technologies

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 04:39 PM

Webpage error details
User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; [b]MSIE 7.0;[/b] Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; Trident/5.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; SLCC2; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; MANM; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E; MANM; MS STORE DMC2.6.3411.2)
Timestamp: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 17:43:49 UTC

Message: Unable to get value of the property 'observe': object is null or undefined
Line: 269
Char: 3
Code: 0
URI: [url="http://www.invisionpower.com/products/board/"]http://www.invisionpower.com/products/board/[/url]

Also, I went to close a ticket and got a couple more. I'm using the latest in IE....

......in what time-sink is IE7 "Latest"?
MS themselves are trying to disown that version.... upgrade imminent for you i do hope.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 10:27 AM

I'm using the current latest public build? I tried it in 32 and 64 bit and get the same errors? I usually use Chrome but was trying the 64 after I upgraded the 64 flash. Oh well.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 11:03 AM

ie7 is not the current latest build, public or msdn/technet.
ie 9 is public, ie 10 is for msdn subscribers.

in ie click help about, will tell you. if you are on ie 9 and you are id'ing as ie7 then you have set compatibility settings to id your browser as ie 7.

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#6 csm

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 12:20 PM

I'm running 9 and the latest build. I also tried it both ways in compatibility mode and not. Get errors both ways.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 12:25 PM

knew I had seen that version-trident string somewheres in documents used for server 2008r2 and exchange web services, this describes it fairly well.

http://blogs.msdn.co...ent-string.aspx

look at the trident strings, you have set the ip url into compatibility mode, and most likely is independent of what you click on compatibility bar while browsing. maybe its an added url in tools-comp view settings?
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IE9’s Compatibility View will map to IE7 Standards Mode, and IE9’s UA string when in Compatibility View will be:


Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 6.0; Trident/5.0)


ie9 in ie7 mode will have issues on lot of stuff.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 12:40 PM

also with dev tools on you can click browser mode and choose mode, will also cause ie7 mode.


edit: I was able to force errors by using ie7 mode from dev tools screen.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 01:37 PM

best way to just "know"...
See any rounded corners... missing?
if IE is running in compatibility mode for or IS IE8- all CSS3 styling will be missing.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 02:00 PM

there is a meta tag that is supposed to ensure that which ever ie browser is being used is set to the highest version

<meta http-equiv="X-UA-Compatible" content="IE=edge" />


http://www.1stwebdes...l5-boilerplate/

#11 Marcher Technologies

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 03:53 PM

there is a meta tag that is supposed to ensure that which ever ie browser is being used is set to the highest version

[/size][/font][/color]
[color=#333333][font=monospace][size=3]


http://www.1stwebdes...l5-boilerplate/

.....that would make ie compatibility debug unusable.... you do know that right?
forcing no compatibility mode is not an answer...

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Posted 27 December 2011 - 09:20 AM

Actually, if I recall correctly we intend to include that meta tag in our next release. We do not want users using compatibility mode with the software, as it creates issues (as seen here).

We support the latest 2 browser iterations 'officially' (meaning, if you find bugs using IE8 or IE9 right now, we will look into them). Bugs noticed while using IE7 (or using IE in version 7 compatibility mode) will not be resolved if they do not directly cause the software to no longer function. By that, I mean, if you cannot read a page in IE7 we will likely look into the issue. We will not hunt down every IE7 javascript issue, however, because the browser version is very outdated and not likely to support the latest technology.
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#13 koulisss

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 03:24 PM

Hello all. I am using Windows 8 and IE 10. I have many issues with displaying my IPB forum. Also I have issues with text editor. Is there any quick fix?

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Posted 05 September 2012 - 04:37 PM

IE should die, they do not keep standards for it. MS always must have done all their "better" way.
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Posted 08 September 2012 - 05:22 PM

Here is the solution to IE10 problems: http://community.inv...ibility-issues/

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 05:27 PM

IE has problems displaying anything, complain to MS to make a browser that actually works.

Soon we'll actually be able to write one set of HTML, one set of CSS, and not have to care what browser the viewer is using.

You do know people write different render engines? So unless all those developers magically decide to give up and let only one set of developers make a render engine, this will not happen.

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 05:40 PM

IE has problems displaying anything, complain to MS to make a browser that actually works.


You do know people write different render engines? So unless all those developers magically decide to give up and let only one set of developers make a render engine, this will not happen.


I'm of the mind that Microsoft thinks they are bigger than W3C, therefore they set the browser standards. :D

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Posted 08 September 2012 - 05:47 PM

IE has problems displaying anything, complain to MS to make a browser that actually works.


You do know people write different render engines? So unless all those developers magically decide to give up and let only one set of developers make a render engine, this will not happen.


Yes, and all those rendering engines are written to render according to standards. Admittedly if all you know is IE6, this might be news to you. But in 2012, all browsers write to standards so we don't have to care what browser the user has.

I'm of the mind that Microsoft thinks they are bigger than W3C, therefore they set the browser standards. :D


Actually, at one point in time IE was actually the most standards compliant browser - unfortunately it was written to a draft standard and the standard changed (that is why the box model is wrong, incidentally - it used to be right until the model spec changed, and they never updated it to comply with the new spec). IE10 is actually being written to standards - no "standard setting" here, apart from their almost religious refusal to include WebM video support out of the box (but you can install a plugin).
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Posted 08 September 2012 - 05:51 PM

<-- is trying to figure out why the deuce an upgrade to..... well, lets face it, MS is *finally* coming *close* to a par on browser terms(netscape? died, literally, why is that mess even mentioned?) requires a forced *downgrade* in rendering when last I heard they were trying to at least come somewhere in the ballpark of other browsers this time...... sigh, further annoying IE bugs to require fixing.
Kyanar, we dislike the browser simply as perfectly valid code in gecko/webkit can go to **** on IE for 0 valid reason, if they kept to the CURRENT standards it wouldn't be so bleeding bad..... but as you pointed out, they take way too bleeding long to keep up, and when they push an update, they break as much as they comply with.
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Posted 08 September 2012 - 06:41 PM

ie will always default to working best for asp/ado.net driven and, if by some luck they happen to work with php//etc count your blessings.
they have to make sure to always work on exchange/sharepoint/storage server for number of reasons, some legal (records management) some profit.

but from what I have seen ie10 has issues on sharepoint and exchange 2010 even.
crock of crap...wish they would smarten up.

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