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[Alfa1]

I am very glad to see that each new version of IPB and other IPS products, introduces vital functions, like infractions, tags, etc. For this reason I am much anticipating IPB 3.3
Even though I was once a vbulletin advocate, I now hope to be able to migrate my sites to IPS. I hope that you will make this possible.

While I do not mind loosing some functionality and getting other functionality in return, there are certain functions that we can not loose, simply because it would mean massive data loss, and loss of vital functionality. Please consider to add these functions to IPS / IPB:


Post edit history
My forum has about 250.000 posts with post edit history. We can not afford to loose this data.
The function is also very important to my site. Here is why:

• I think any medium to large site frequently encounters the issue of members vandalizing their posts and thereby making many threads unreadable. With post edit history, moderators can quickly undo this.
  
• Another issue that we frequently encounter is when we receive a report about rule breaches or abuse, but it has been edited out of the post. The staff can then no longer check what the situation was.

Reputation comments
My site has 150.000 reputation comments. These texts are not just meaningless cheering, but descriptive post evaluations/reviews. We really can not afford to loose these.
This function is one of the most important functions on my site, as my whole site is built around reputation comments. Here's why:

• Reputation comments tell the user what he/she is doing wrong or right, and thereby have greatly increased my sites post quality.
  
• Reputation comments under posts, tell the reader what the community thinks about the quality of a post.
  
• Members get notifications about new reputation comments, and see reputation comments on profiles. This adds value to my community.

Thousands of vbulletin sites use reputation comments.


Blog categories
Blogs on my site are in hundreds of blog categories. These categories match our forum categories. Blog categories are used to:

• make it easy for readers to read blogs that are about a specific subject
  
• browse through categories
  
• To jump from the forum about a certain subject, to the blog category about the same subject.

Categories and subcategories, allow you to organize a large number of blogs.


Please consider my requests. I am certain that these are important to other webmasters as well, and currently make it very difficult to migrate to IPS, while its marvelous community software.


Are there other data sets that will be lost when migrating from vbulletin to IPS suite?

[bfarber]

Alfa1, on 01 February 2012 - 12:46 PM, said:

Are there other data sets that will be lost when migrating from vbulletin to IPS suite?

This is a difficult question to answer.  You can see exactly what we convert on our converters page, so your best option is to (as you have done above) review the functionality you consider important to your site and verify it is converted.

[Alfa1]

Is that overview up to date? IPS products has evolved quite fast. tags have been added and infractions and soft deleted posts will be added in IPB 3.3


Are the following data sets imported?

• PM folders
  
• Thread prefixes
  
• Member account change history
  
• infraction points
  
• Infraction messages
  
• Preset Infractions
  
• tags
  
• soft deleted posts
  
• topic history (merges, deletions, renaming, moving, etc)
  
• user notes

[Alex]

Alfa1, on 01 February 2012 - 04:02 PM, said:

Is that overview up to date? IPS products has evolved quite fast. tags have been added and infractions and soft deleted posts will be added in IPB 3.3


Are the following data sets imported?

• PM folders - No, folders are not carried across
  
• Thread prefixes - Thread prefixes are converted into IP.Board tag prefixes
  
• Member account change history - Not too sure what you mean here, if you mean name changes etc., these aren't converted
  
• infraction points - Yes
  
• Infraction messages - Yes
  
• Preset Infractions - No, not at this stage.
  
• tags - Yes
  
• soft deleted posts - Yes
  
• topic history (merges, deletions, renaming, moving, etc) - We don't copy across logs
  
• user notes - User notes from warnings/infractions are copied across, if that is what you mean

[Alfa1]

• Member account change history - Not too sure what you mean here, if you mean name changes etc., these aren't converted

In vbulletin many changes to user accounts are logged. Name changes, email changes, usergroup changes, bans, unbans, etc. These are quite handy for defining issues and resolving problems. Does IPB have such logs?

• user notes - User notes from warnings/infractions are copied across, if that is what you mean

No, user notes are a function on user profiles which only moderators can post to and read. User notes are used for future reference and describe the users behavior. Does IPB have something similar?

[bfarber]

Alfa1, on 01 February 2012 - 08:11 PM, said:

• Member account change history - Not too sure what you mean here, if you mean name changes etc., these aren't converted

In vbulletin many changes to user accounts are logged. Name changes, email changes, usergroup changes, bans, unbans, etc. These are quite handy for defining issues and resolving problems. Does IPB have such logs?

• user notes - User notes from warnings/infractions are copied across, if that is what you mean

No, user notes are a function on user profiles which only moderators can post to and read. User notes are used for future reference and describe the users behavior. Does IPB have something similar?

IP.Board does not log user account changes, no.

IP.Board allows moderators to leave notes through the warning panel (without issuing a warning), however I would have to wait for a conversion specialist to answer as to whether they are copied across when converting.

[Alfa1]

Will you please consider the 3 feature requests that are in my top post? We are really hoping for this, as this would make it possible to migrate.

[bfarber]

We consider all suggestions.   I cannot say right now, however, when or if they will be implemented (I would not expect to see those changes in 3.3 I'm afraid).

As for blog categories, IP.Blog already supports blog categories (but not subcategories).

[Alfa1]

bfarber, on 06 February 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

We consider all suggestions.   I cannot say right now, however, when or if they will be implemented (I would not expect to see those changes in 3.3 I'm afraid).

Then I am hoping for implementation in 3.4. Its good to know that these will not be in 3.3.
Seeing that IPB 3.2 was released in July 2011, and IPB 3.1 in June 2010 and IP.B 3.3 is to be expected around April 2012, it seems that IP.B 3.4 could be expected somewhere around Q1 2013.
This gives me a clear idea about my options for the next year. Thanks.

bfarber, on 06 February 2012 - 05:25 PM, said:

As for blog categories, IP.Blog already supports blog categories (but not subcategories).

Are these global blog categories that the admin can set? Can these blog categories be set to be mandatory, so that users need to select a category?

[bfarber]

Alfa1, on 07 February 2012 - 03:28 AM, said:

Then I am hoping for implementation in 3.4. Its good to know that these will not be in 3.3.
Seeing that IPB 3.2 was released in July 2011, and IPB 3.1 in June 2010 and IP.B 3.3 is to be expected around April 2012, it seems that IP.B 3.4 could be expected somewhere around Q1 2013.
This gives me a clear idea about my options for the next year. Thanks.

I could not guess as to when you will see 3.3 just yet of course, however our history is there and available to speculate from.

Alfa1, on 07 February 2012 - 03:28 AM, said:

Are these global blog categories that the admin can set? Can these blog categories be set to be mandatory, so that users need to select a category?

These categories are set on a per-blog basis by the user, and cannot be mandatory.  You CAN require tags to be supplied when tagging is enabled, which might be another form of categorization that would work for you.

[SubStrider]

Post edit history and reputation comments are two things that our forum members had asked for but we told them that it is not possible.