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#1 action-reaction

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:40 AM

Hello,

I'd like an option to update the forum without any FTP access. I know it's possible, for instance, the dotclear blog can be updated "online".

At least, that could be useful for small files (the langage pack, for instance).


I don't have internet at home and I don't want it, and there aren't FTP access in the bibliotheques.

That's why I'd like this option.

Hope you understand me despite my bad english.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 06:48 AM

Do you have cPanel with your host?
With cPanel access you can update your forum from the bibliotheques without any FTP client.
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#3 Martin A.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:00 AM

You can use the Auto-Upgrade feature in your Client Area. Just enter your FTP details, and IPS' system will do it all for you.

#4 action-reaction

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:26 AM

I know, but they won't update the langage pack.

And what about the addons in the client ressource ?


Do you have cPanel with your host?
With cPanel access you can update your forum from the bibliotheques without any FTP client.

Yes for one or two files, it's possible to use cpanel, true.


However in this case, I've got a problem with hostagor, it seems to be impossible to connect to cpanel through a proxy.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 02:44 PM

Time you found a new host. Keeping a forum up and running requires ftp access. Perhaps you should host with IPS?

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 04:10 PM

This is a very bad idea because it opens up your site and your forums to hackers exploiting vulnerabilities. I'm not sure this is a great idea to have for the forum software. While I'm all for making the software easier to use, I'm not sure it's a good idea for administrative functions such as software upgrading and the like.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 05:42 PM

I never had issues hosting an IP.Board forum with HostGator (until it grew too large for their limits, but that's another story entirely).

First of all, action-reaction, it sounds like you're trying to update the language pack. That's stored in the database, and not in any particular file or set of files. You can download a language pack as an XML file and import it into your database through your board's ACP.

Second, if you have cPanel access, it's very easy to upgrade your board or any add-on applications with a single file upload. Download the IP.Board zip file from your client area, unzip it, and put the contents of the "upload" folder into another zip file. If you want to upgrade any applications, just add the contents of their "upload" folders to the same zip file. Then upload that file to your webroot (usually the public_html folder) and unzip it using the cPanel file manager. Once you've done that, hop into the ACP and run the upgrade as usual. Be sure to delete the zip file from your webroot once you're done.

This method is actually faster than FTP in my experience because uploading a single file takes much less time than several thousand, due to the small overhead involved in every single file's transfer. I usually run upgrades this way myself, even though I have no trouble using FTP or SFTP.

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 05:49 PM

Time you found a new host. Keeping a forum up and running requires ftp access. Perhaps you should host with IPS?

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Posted 16 March 2012 - 07:31 PM

Well, I host my website with HostGator and I haven't had any issues with their service. The only time they make an issue is if you're abusing their system resources or you're consuminig too much memory. They recently upgraded their servers with additional memory, about a year or two ago and I noticed most of my problems with server loads went away.

But, I think the OP is looking for a way to be able to simply point and click without logging into his or her account and have it done automatically with no uploading. Simply doing that without FTP or direct uploading to your account server is just not a very good idea. It really will open you up to potential headaches. I can't think of a single webhost provider that allows this because it opens your website up for potential hackers.

When I need an upgrade, I simply put in a support ticket and IPS Support handles my upgrades via FTP. You want to limit how much control you hand out to anyone and I just see potential red flags when you start asking anyone on an easier way to upgrade your software without FTP or Cpanel. Not unless you custom create your own login tools but that also requires some form of uploading.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:07 AM

I'm a little confused, you own a forum and don't have internet access?

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:36 AM

I'm a little confused, you own a forum and don't have internet access?

Bibliotheques means library I think. He runs it from the library but there's no FTP client there.

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Posted 17 March 2012 - 12:03 PM

Ouch ... better off just doing a manual upload and upgrading that way.

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 08:44 AM

Time you found a new host. Keeping a forum up and running requires ftp access. Perhaps you should host with IPS?

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I'm fine with hostgator. Yes I'd like to host my website with IPS, it's more coherent, but the price is very much more expensive.

I never had issues hosting an IP.Board forum with HostGator (until it grew too large for their limits, but that's another story entirely).

First of all, action-reaction, it sounds like you're trying to update the language pack. That's stored in the database, and not in any particular file or set of files. You can download a language pack as an XML file and import it into your database through your board's ACP.

Second, if you have cPanel access, it's very easy to upgrade your board or any add-on applications with a single file upload. Download the IP.Board zip file from your client area, unzip it, and put the contents of the "upload" folder into another zip file. If you want to upgrade any applications, just add the contents of their "upload" folders to the same zip file. Then upload that file to your webroot (usually the public_html folder) and unzip it using the cPanel file manager. Once you've done that, hop into the ACP and run the upgrade as usual. Be sure to delete the zip file from your webroot once you're done.

This method is actually faster than FTP in my experience because uploading a single file takes much less time than several thousand, due to the small overhead involved in every single file's transfer. I usually run upgrades this way myself, even though I have no trouble using FTP or SFTP.


Ok, I'll try to go deeper with this idea.

#14 Oplosium

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Posted 20 March 2012 - 09:17 AM

Bibliotheques means library I think. He runs it from the library but there's no FTP client there.


He probably meant the file manager in cPanel.

Edit: wait, he doesn't have internet?




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