11 replies to this topic

[daveoh]

Please give us back the option to not show the warning points to members under the avatar.

Since the update they have become a massive talking point, we have/had a rule where warnings and bans are not to be discussed on the forum, my mods are getting a little annoyed having to deal with the moaning now.

I've even got members pm'ing me huge rants about freedom of speech to about previous warnings they picked up and accepted at the time.

Members just don't want that constant reminder that they are on the naughty step.

3.3.1 sneak the option back and put a smile back on my face, pretty pretty please.

[joshcom_merged]

Same with my members....

[Megami Community]

Oops, you want to disable the "graphic" for warnings. I don't know if that's possible. I thought you wanted to disable the warning system. You should develop a system where your members can request for the warning strike to be removed after a certain period of time if they behave themselves and follow the forum rules.

I had a system set up where if someone received a warning strike that they could "appeal" for the warning to be removed after "90 days" if they followed the forum rules. But if they continued to violate the rules, that they would start receiving forum restrictions lasting anywhere from two weeks to as much as a permanent sitewide ban, depending on the offense. While this may not work for all communities, it's something to consider.

I simply removed the warning system by disabling it for everybody and just using "verbal warnings" for the first offense and then temporary to permanent restrictions based on the offense they committed. My system is always undergoing changes, periodically, testing out what works and what doesn't but I have actually had some success with my method. I've found that 99% of the members on my forums follow the rules and usually the "verbal warning" or "verbal reminder" about what they did wrong is enough to point them in the right direction.

If I suspect that someone violated the forum rules deliberately by checking out their registration date and looking at what they've posted, it's an automatic permanent ban for spamming, trolling or flaming. I've learned over the last eight years on how to spot certain types of activity. What I can say is that the bulk of our members will respect your forums enough to follow the rules, it's the hit and run registered users who will post one message attacking your site and then disappear never to return again. I usually conduct an account purge about twice per year, getting rid of these "dump" accounts, what I refer to them as "one use" accounts.

[eXemity]

I am also looking for a way to remove the "warning posts" message from below member's avatar

[Rimi]

Hello.

In the userinfopane template find this

  <if test="authorwarn:|:$author['show_warn']">
   <li>
    <if test="$options['wl_id']">
	 <img src='{$this->settings['img_url']}/warn.png' class='clickable' onclick='warningPopup( this, {$options['wl_id']} )' title='{$this->lang->words['warnings_issued']}' />
    </if>
    <a class='desc lighter blend_links' href='{parse url="app=members&amp;module=profile&amp;section=warnings&amp;member={$author['member_id']}&amp;from_app={$this->request['app']}&amp;from_id1={$contentid}&amp;from_id2={$options['id2']}" base="public"}' id='warn_link_{$contentid}_{$author['member_id']}' title='{$this->lang->words['warn_view_history']}'>{parse expression="sprintf( $this->lang->words['warn_status'], $author['warn_level'] )"}</a>
   </li>
  </if>

and change it to

<if test="$this->memberData['is_mod']">
  <if test="authorwarn:|:$author['show_warn']">
   <li>
    <if test="$options['wl_id']">
	 <img src='{$this->settings['img_url']}/warn.png' class='clickable' onclick='warningPopup( this, {$options['wl_id']} )' title='{$this->lang->words['warnings_issued']}' />
    </if>
    <a class='desc lighter blend_links' href='{parse url="app=members&amp;module=profile&amp;section=warnings&amp;member={$author['member_id']}&amp;from_app={$this->request['app']}&amp;from_id1={$contentid}&amp;from_id2={$options['id2']}" base="public"}' id='warn_link_{$contentid}_{$author['member_id']}' title='{$this->lang->words['warn_view_history']}'>{parse expression="sprintf( $this->lang->words['warn_status'], $author['warn_level'] )"}</a>
   </li>
  </if>
</if>

[Megami Community]

Thanks, Rimi. However, I wouldn't remove it. What that does is give notice to members that violating your forum policy won't be tolerated. I've found that it actually acts as a deterrent to not violate your rules.

That indicator only appears after you receive your first warning. I've found it a useful deterrent.

[k-mi]

Ver. 3.3.3

I'm fiddling on our test board trying to achieve the same. We do not want to display user warnings to the rest of the members. It creates negative posts that end up being moderated. If anyone has come up with a solution please post.

It's actually preventing us to go live right now, after the upgrade. Some solutions have been to monitor forward on a spreadsheet. Nice idea but on 6,000 user plus, and to maintain new users etc....Doesn't work that well for me.

There should be an option to use the warning system and to display or not display publicly.

[MGBrose]

There should be an option to use the warning system and to display or not display publicly.

I'll second that, would love to see this is 3.3.5

[Mark]

Just to clarify - do you only want to remove it from the post box, or do you not want members to be able to see their warning level at all (i.e. not show it on the profile either).

If it's the latter, I'm not sure what the point in using the warning system is at all if you don't let members know they've been warned

[Rimi]

Just to clarify - do you only want to remove it from the post box, or do you not want members to be able to see their warning level at all (i.e. not show it on the profile either).

If it's the latter, I'm not sure what the point in using the warning system is at all if you don't let members know they've been warned

For me its the latter. The point is to not have the count visible to users because its just a negative thing to have. I personally use the warn system to log warns against a member just for moderating sake. The members don't need to see the warns. That's where the pm features come in. When the member is warned there should be an option to send a pm so they know they've been warned. But they don't need to see the entire list of warns along with how many points they've accumulated. It varies with communities. The way I described is how I use it in 3.1.4.

Long story short, please put the old functionality back.

[MGBrose]

For me its the latter. The point is to not have the count visible to users because its just a negative thing to have. I personally use the warn system to log warns against a member just for moderating sake. The members don't need to see the warns. That's where the pm features come in. When the member is warned there should be an option to send a pm so they know they've been warned. But they don't need to see the entire list of warns along with how many points they've accumulated. It varies with communities. The way I described is how I use it in 3.1.4.

Long story short, please put the old functionality back.

I agree completely. Also I believe boards should have the option to use that location for reputation points as well. That way boards get to choose whether to use public positive or public negative reinforcement. I think the Internets trend is turning more toward positive reinforcement.

[MGBrose]

Mark is this something we could expect to see upcoming in a near future release? Because I could modify these myself, but I always like OEM, . Less hooks/mods the better in my opinion.