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Tanax

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In Topic: "Hide"

03 December 2011 - 08:23 AM

View PostAiwa, on 02 December 2011 - 03:52 PM, said:

Yes, a trash can MAY exist, that is up to the board administrator.  Options are available to NOT have a trash can.  In which case, delete would truly be DELETE, gone, kaput, not recoverable.

Deleting something should make it like it was never there.  Members shouldn't be able to see even a placeholder for a deleted post or topic.  So, if soft-delete is leaving a placeholder members can see and not actually removing the content, then you really are 'hiding' something.

Content should never be 'viewed' as deleted.  If it was 'deleted' it should just be gone, nothing left behind to show of its existence.  Since the content is being 'viewed' as a placeholder to members, then 'HIDE' would be the best terminology here.

It isn't deleted, it's soft-deleted(<- meaning; recoverable).

You can delete a file from your harddrive(and trashbin) and still be able to recover it with special programs. Is it not wrong of Windows(and Mac OS X) to call it delete then aswell?
Ohwell, the point of this topic was to start a discussion, not an argue - which it seems to be pointing towards. It also seems like I was the only one feeling like this so we'll just have to wait and see how it feels to "hide" an offensive post instead of "soft-delete" it.

In Topic: "Hide"

02 December 2011 - 03:19 PM

View PostMarcher Technologies, on 02 December 2011 - 02:58 PM, said:

.... all soft-delete ever DID was hide it... I can not think of a more appropriate name... its not deletion.
Using the phrase delete at all when it does no such thing is more confusing by far IMO than Hide, which is exactly what that does.

In that case they can rename the "hard-delete" aswell if you set up a trash forum since all that does is move the content to the trash - e.g. it's not really deleted either.
I realize that what soft-delete actually does is hide the content but with one important difference and that is that the content should be viewed as deleted.

In Topic: IP.Board 3.2 suggestion - Reputation system per forum setting

23 November 2011 - 12:42 PM

View Post• Jay •, on 23 November 2011 - 01:22 AM, said:

I'm glad we have that settled.

Nice trolling there. Won't fall for it though.

In Topic: IP.Board 3.2 suggestion - Reputation system per forum setting

22 November 2011 - 09:37 PM

View Post• Jay •, on 18 November 2011 - 06:55 PM, said:

Your hostility and figurative foot stomping is counterproductive.

I'm not being hostile but if we're going to be like that then your ignorance and stupidity is quite counterproductive aswell.
How productive is it when someone suggests a new feature, you come along and say that moderators take care of helping members with *everything* (which is what you're implying or at least what the result of what you're saying means) and then refuse to hear when someone else(me) says that moderators can't do everything and that not all members reads everything.

Yes, let's not implement a feature that can help members because we have moderators that does that! Or let's not implement a feature because on your board every member reads all your announcements, stickies, rules and everything. Very productive there.

In Topic: IP.Board 3.2 suggestion - Reputation system per forum setting

18 November 2011 - 02:50 PM

View Post• Jay •, on 18 November 2011 - 08:31 AM, said:

And that's why administrators have these helpful little assistants called "moderators" to help point out these useful topics and links to the members too impatient to read them.

The existence of the tools isn't enough, obviously.  Administrators have to be smart enough to use them.

Yes, but having moderators doesn't help a newbie realize that someone who has 90 rep got 90 rep in the offtopic section unless that newbie specifically asks. Seriously, are you trying NOT to understand why this feature would be beneficial?