With the best will in the world Lindy, we're talking about a fairly important point, it was a discussion about a change in the law and Matt said that IPB had a solution which would be implemented in 3.3.2, it also made it into at least one beta version and was used on these forums.
Dress that up any way you like but I don't think it's unreasonable to ask for better communication when it comes to something that isn't a trivial matter.
We've been customers for something like 7 years now, and we're really disappointed with IPS of late, it's all the more frustrating as the software is pretty good in the main but something just isn't right & of all the 3rd party suppliers we spend money with, IPB are without doubt top of our 'wish we could find an alternative' list, sad really.
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In Topic: All IPB forums breaching EU law
Yesterday, 11:48 AM
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Yesterday, 11:08 AM
Shigure, on 25 May 2012 - 11:04 AM, said:
Originally 3.3.2 had a link to a cookies page which listed all the cookies the site uses. It was on one of the betas on IPS. In the corner it said "This site uses cookies" and had a link to that cookies page.
Charles, on 25 May 2012 - 09:52 AM, said:
We have never posted an announcement one way or the other about this. Matt's, or any other staff's, conversation in a topic is not really gospel
... IPS is very communicative with clients and we cannot always know what is said in conversation might be something we change our mind about later.
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In Topic: All IPB forums breaching EU law
Yesterday, 10:48 AM
That's not what matt described though, and doesn't conform to the new directive.
The directive is filled with grey areas and as Charles says, there are many differing opinions, guides and solutions out there, but it's also clear on many points mainly that sites should offering users clarity as to what cookies are, what they're being set for and how to block them.
Whether permission to set cookies is implied or explicit is a grey area, whether a website should offer a method of blocking cookies (other than telling users how their browser settings work) is another grey area, and I'm sure there are many other points which could be argued around, but from the guidelines it's clear that ICO want websites to at least do something - even if in the first instance that is providing a clear link with info on what cookies are being set and how to block them. (which is what Matt described)
A quick glance around major sites in the UK shows a range of options being taken on, but I still don't think that's a reason to do nothing.
The directive is filled with grey areas and as Charles says, there are many differing opinions, guides and solutions out there, but it's also clear on many points mainly that sites should offering users clarity as to what cookies are, what they're being set for and how to block them.
Whether permission to set cookies is implied or explicit is a grey area, whether a website should offer a method of blocking cookies (other than telling users how their browser settings work) is another grey area, and I'm sure there are many other points which could be argued around, but from the guidelines it's clear that ICO want websites to at least do something - even if in the first instance that is providing a clear link with info on what cookies are being set and how to block them. (which is what Matt described)
A quick glance around major sites in the UK shows a range of options being taken on, but I still don't think that's a reason to do nothing.
In Topic: All IPB forums breaching EU law
Yesterday, 09:39 AM
Charles, I'll try to make this as clear as possible for you
1. The lack of communication is my issue, if further to Matt's post you researched further and decided to do nothing, then why not let your customers know? I've made this point several times now, would it be too much to ask you to address it, acknowledge you ought to have done or at least stop ignoring it?
2. My link was to the ICO website which has all the legislation and a whole range of guidelines, not just as simple pdf, it also has their cookie compliance implementation. Did you actually bother to click the link before commenting??
3. What is the broader picture you speak of? If you have that available to you and know more than the BBC, British Govt, and various other huge media companies with highly paid and qualified legal depts who have decided to take some form of action, please feel free to share it!
1. The lack of communication is my issue, if further to Matt's post you researched further and decided to do nothing, then why not let your customers know? I've made this point several times now, would it be too much to ask you to address it, acknowledge you ought to have done or at least stop ignoring it?
2. My link was to the ICO website which has all the legislation and a whole range of guidelines, not just as simple pdf, it also has their cookie compliance implementation. Did you actually bother to click the link before commenting??
3. What is the broader picture you speak of? If you have that available to you and know more than the BBC, British Govt, and various other huge media companies with highly paid and qualified legal depts who have decided to take some form of action, please feel free to share it!
In Topic: All IPB forums breaching EU law
Yesterday, 09:18 AM
That entirely contradicts Matt's post though Charles and tbh shows that you probably haven't read the guidelines either.
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