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Steve H

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In Topic: Honest (negative) feedback, hopefully constructive

27 July 2011 - 10:31 AM

View PostMatt, on 27 July 2011 - 09:48 AM, said:


I think if you personally spoke to any 100 customers, most of them would be happy with the direction we continue to take. I certainly don't dismiss any feedback but there has not been a mass outcry against the avatar/photo decision.

Go and read our many blog entries from the past six months. Read the comments too and then read on how we've further shaped the product based directly from that feedback.

With regard to "customer polls" - this generally isn't a great idea. If you pick any contentious  topic you'll see that no one really agrees on a specific implementation. Our job is to listen to *everyone* and then make a decision. The moment you start compromising with direction changing input from various sources is the very moment that the product stalls and starts to come apart.

We have to present a cohesive product that suits most people. What functionality isn't present in the base system can be easily added via our extensive hooks, modules and applications frameworks. We continue to invest considerable time and effort to ensure that *you* can add the functionality that *you* need.

Matt, how can you say that there has been no mass outcry regarding avatars? There are lots of topics on the subject and it's not just the same old users posting in every topic.

I don't care either way, however obviously a significant part of your customer base, (the ones who care enough about the software and the direction it takes by using these forums and giving feedback) care about how that particular feature was removed.

They are not asking for a new updated feature with more options - they are asking for the same thing that you've previously offered. Is there any empirical data which suggests that more people don't want it? I'm not talking about people like me that sit on the fence but people that actually don't want the feature because they believe that it is no longer relevant.

A poll with respect to this particular subject would only require two options - integrate the avatar system as it was in previous releases or leave as is.

I can't help but feel that the integration would take more work than you would want to put in and for that reason you're against re-integrating it.

Maybe I've missed it but I've not seen any modder suggest that they will be picking up the development of an avatar modification, nor could anyone expect that such a modification would be available for free as I'd imagine it would take a significant amount of coding.

How can silence validate your decisions? That's a comment I'd expect from the developers at IB not IPS. If silence validated your decisions then what you've said in respect to listening to those posting is just a façade.

In Topic: Honest (negative) feedback, hopefully constructive

27 July 2011 - 07:41 AM

View PostCharles, on 27 July 2011 - 06:56 AM, said:


That's my point though Posted Image ... We are listenting to the needs of the majority. It may be your viewpoint that we are not because you have a specific, personal view on something but we have to look at the larger picture. There are many things a minority want but we cannot add because it would either confuse the majority, create a support overhead, or is simply not technically possible. One must keep in mind that the vast, vast, vast, majority of our clients do not want to customize the software very much at all. They want it to work a certain way out of the box. You are clearly a power-user who is comfortable customizing things (and that is great so we provide tools for you to do so) but the majority you speak of just want to go about their day and enjoy chatting with their community members. That is the majority we must tailor to for the out-of-the-box functions of our software.

Not that I think your necessarily taking the software in a wrong direction as I really like 3.2, I do have one question though - where does the vast majority of feedback come from?

I know you've said you have a large number of corporate clients that don't even visit the forums here, is the feedback coming from them? Or is the vast majority of feedback coming from these forums?

If it is these forums would you ever consider having official anonymous customer polls on the removal of features that people are most vocal about? I'm not talking about features that only a few people are complaining about but ones that bring about several threads with hundreds of users. The removal of avatar galleries and the settings that were included would probably be a good example.

I don't want this place to turn into a "vote for you want fixed or added or removed" however it would be nice to see if the vocal people in the minority are actually in the minority. Obviously if you're getting the majority of feedback elsewhere then this wouldn't work.

In Topic: IPB 3.1.4 and 3.2.0 and compatibility of IPS add-ons/apps

23 July 2011 - 06:21 PM

No, the latest apps are only compatible with 3.2.0.

IPS re-added 3.1.4 back into the downloads as initially it disappeared completely - I'm guessing they've not done the same with the other addons.

In Topic: IPS Portal (End of Life), Mark, Not a Good Idea

23 July 2011 - 05:51 PM

Sorry Gerry - added in an official government link that you may want to take a look at.

In Topic: IPS Portal (End of Life), Mark, Not a Good Idea

23 July 2011 - 05:28 PM

View PostGerry 5039, on 23 July 2011 - 05:11 PM, said:

Again it depends on different countries


You have to register copyright in the US and in Britain and I am sure in othe countries aswell, copyright is given by the country.

source = http://en.wikipedia....n_copyright_law

The UK are part of the Berne convention - in otherwords - copyright registration is not required as it is automatically given.

I think you're confusing patents or trademarks with copyrights.

Edit:

From an official source for us in the UK - see below.

http://www.ipo.gov.uk/types.htm

http://www.ipo.gov.u...bout/c-auto.htm