Tom Christian

This is a feature I would love to see taken from XenForo, it turns your bored off when it sees that there are new files for an upgrade to the next version then it automatically comes back online when done upgrading.

If this is done, it would also be cool to have a feature when upgrading to either select when the board comes back online, as in say you need to configure some stuff before the board goes back online so you can have a box to check that makes it stay offline until you manually turn it back on.

Good idea, we'll discuss this for the next major version (3.4).

Tom Christian, on 14 April 2012 - 07:24 AM, said:

That might explain the problems I had then, as its not something I'd use usually. I'd have to suggest a bug report as either it should be removed from the .zip or ideally updated so it works. Then again, we have this feedback topic...

+1 on this. Makes the demo field in the Skins category of the Marketplace totally useless. Not only that, but it's now the customers of all us designers have to change the skin when they visit our demo board rather than being taken directly to it.

I agree simply because its annoying clicking on skin demos and having to then go and change the skin. Why was this ever removed anyway?

No, I've worked on $10,000+ projects that were non-forum related. Again, that's not atypical if you're dealing with successful businesses because they consider the cost-benefit ratio and gladly take on the investment if it profits them more in the long run, especially company image.

The average I charge for a premium forum skin with extras (CMS look-alike attached, etc.) is $5000.
For a stand-alone high quality forum design I would charge as low as $2000.

(figures above do not include maintenance, which I charge on a monthly basis or per request (the latter is more expensive))

Calculate the amount of time and effort it takes to make a novel creation such as a custom web-site. Then consider your level of expertise. Then factor in your own business/personal expenses you need to cover. Some projects are quick (1 week or less) with high yield. Other projects take as long as 3 months. A $10,000 contract running 3 months is an average pay of $3.3K a month. Now if you were to severely under-price your services, say $2500 for that project, that's $833 a month and that's not even your net income.

The only reason skinners charge so low here is because the market does not, for the majority, consist of business-people and moderately wealthy entrepreneurs. Rest assured, if you are able to obtain a high quality pre-built skin for $30, consider yourself very fortunate. As for the OP claiming to purchase custom skins for $50, that's possible if you're dealing with a high school student with no experience or perhaps hiring from overseas.

I also understand not wanting to spend a dime on your site if you're not intending to profit, especially if you have it sitting on a shared server with little activity. But you should understand few professional designers will want to work with you if that's the case; hence, many designers like to work with small to large scale businesses depending on their preference and other factors.

Tangent: Quality hosting for highly active sites goes upward $500+ a month (some type of dedicated server), and $5000 a month for a juiced up dedicated server isn't "crazy" pricing in today's industry either.

P.S
Did you know marketing costs alone vary from as little as $1000 to $2,000,000+? (go check how much it costs to be on Yahoo or the NY times frontpage)

• Jay •, on 15 September 2011 - 08:23 AM, said:

It was a very simple site+forum redesign. Honestly, it's not rare for quotes to surpass $10,000; $15,000+ if it's a complex e-commerce site (adjust to your client's needs). So many of you are selling yourself short if your clients aren't businesses who can afford this type of small investment. There's no reason to charge so little as $50 for a custom skin unless you as a designer are living in a third world country and only deal with clients who are teenagers.

Time = Money

If you want a quality designer to spend the time for you on a premium complete skin, expect to pay market standard pricing. If you want a huge discount, expect a hashed up design, probably ripped, or just a previous template tinkered a bit.

This seems like a very poor use of the staff's time.  I'd rather they work on fix bugs and improve the software than ask them to update some running list every time they decide a 16x16 icon is unnecessary and remove it.

Hello,

This is just an idea, but wouldn't it look better if in the IPS Marketplace, we first
had an option to choose which version of IP.Board we're running ?

What i mean by this is 2 categories instead of 1 global, one for the 3.1.x and
one for the 3.2.x , this would give a cleaner look to the marketplace, rather than
having to see each mod's version compatibility.



- Jeuhen

Seriously, this is the most useful CSS class EVER.

Thank you, IPB, for caring enough to clean up and improve the CSS for people like me. 3.2 is miles better than 3.1 in most respects, but in this one especially. <3

xinfinite, on 25 June 2011 - 04:12 PM, said:

I think if you activate your licence then you might have more detailed help in the support forums.

Yes there is no point keeping on arguing on this. It was not my intent to drag it.

Personally I don t care one way or another. If IPB believes it is warranted to add a menu manager they will add one and I will be happy with it.
I only provide comments to entertain the discussion not to win an argument.

I'm happy with 90% of the features added and removed in 3.2. The other 10% I'll happily add the hooks. I appreciate the fact the IPB listens to the majority of it customers.

Kage Kazumi, on 18 June 2011 - 03:02 PM, said:

I think Rikki, who has worked in web design for nearly 10 years; has worked with us to build sites for EMI, Sony, etc; has developed the look and feel for IP.Board 3.x which has been widely adopted and copied; has reinvigorated our software suite for 3.2 knows pretty much what he's doing.

You may not agree with his design and you may not like it, but to suggest he doesn't know what he's doing is mindless and poorly researched.